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    As is the case with popular music over the past forty years or
more, it tends to move between continents - import/export. Rock & Roll,
Punk, what have you. House music originating in Detroit and Chicago was
directly influenced by European outfits such as Kraftwerk and Depeche Mode.

Also in the early days in Chicago DJ's like Frankie Knuckles would program
drum rhythms and play disco records over the top of his beats in the club
environment.

American House music was being played in the Gay Clubs in England for a good
two years + before any sign of acceptance in the straight scene (circa
1985 - 1987) and even a few chart hits like 'Jack your Body' and 'Love
Can't Turn Around'.

    During the Eighties in London a warehouse party scene developed
that featured soul music ie. Hip-Hop, Disco, Uptempo R&B, Rare Groove,
Jazz Funk etc. This directly gave rise to Pirate Radio, notably Kiss FM -
a weekend station that was listened to by over a million people. There has
always been a strong underground soul scene in England ever since James
Brown & Co . invented the Funk.

Sometime in 1987 a few unconnected groups of people started throwing
all-night House parties. 'Schoom' and 'Phycic T.V '. Schoom was agroup of
South - London soccer 'fans' from the soul-side whereas Phycic T.V came
from the Industrial edge. These small parties grew in size and started to
attract the 'Trendies' (i.e fickle club kids). Inject a new designer drug
(Ecstacy) and stir with a nice helping of media and ....... Acid House.

    Of course this shit started to get played on the radio, with a
whole host of new fly by night pirate stations springing up. Larger and
larger parties. You wanted to go to a party you listened to the radio-
they told you where the map point was. Out-of-Control! So much so that the
British Government paniced. All these people gathering together and no
trouble? They don't like that. Keep everyone divided and oppressed. Also
they weren't getting their cut ($).

    Markie !)



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From: Miles Pearce <[e-mail]>
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Hiya Folks,

May I add what I percieve to be the History Of Raves....

What we loosely term as house music definately had its' origins in
Detroit/Chicago with artists like Mr Fingers. It has roots in the Gay
club scene as a progression of Hi-Energy Disco.

It was subsequently picked up by the Clubs here in the UK and I remember
local DJs playing Jack and Garage as early as '85. Then in '86 tunes like
Love Can't Turn Around and Jack the Groove made the UK Top 40. Clubs were
full of the this early stuff.

'87/'88 saw the advent of Acid House as it became known - lots of sqeaks and
and samples.

Meanwhile in the UK in the Summer of '88 the first summer of love occured
mainly around Londons' M25 Orbital Motorway - mostly illegal gatherings
- a large stage, huge PA, Lasers, lights, E not Acid and thousands of people
having the eexperience of a lifetime in Unison. These events had parallels
with the Clubs on Ibiza, where house had also taken a stronghold.

Acid House was a term picked up and used by the sensationalist low market
press and twisted to portray some sort of link with the drug. 'Evil
pusher/innocent teenager syndrome stories. This was a misconception
taken up by punters new to the scene - hence is use now at raves.

Raves are basically large outdoor dance parties that go on all night -
that's what they were called in the UK in '88.

Inciently the Raves now are nothing like those in those good ol'
summers of love.

Cheers'

Miles

From [e-mail] Thu Sep  9 07:22:30 1993
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>        As is the case with popular music over the past forty years or
>more, it tends to move between continents - import/export. Rock & Roll,
>Punk, what have you. House music originating in Detroit and Chicago was
>directly influenced by European outfits such as Kraftwerk and Depeche Mode.
>
>Also in the early days in Chicago DJ's like Frankie Knuckles would program
>drum rhythms and play disco records over the top of his beats in the club
>environment.

It is very cool and strange how things leave different continents only to
come back, like a boomerang, in a new form.

In terms of "house", I was under the impression (I know that we are on the
rave tip at this time) that it began right after disco "died".  Things were
driven underground and flourished.  I think I saw it on two documentaries
on dance, one was on this video tape "dance International", the otehr was
on "Rave" (some show on cable), and the other was a PBS special on Dance.

The comment I made about it started here in the US is flawed at best.
Seeing as by the time it was driven undeground it had already had much
infusion by the "techno" of the time (Kraftwerk, et al.), and rap was
beginning to take off as commercially viable.


>
>American House music was being played in the Gay Clubs in England for a good
>two years + before any sign of acceptance in the straight scene (circa
>1985 - 1987) and even a few chart hits like 'Jack your Body' and 'Love
>Can't Turn Around'.

It usually takes a long time before a straight scene acquires something
new.  The funny thing is how the music had changed and then was embraced by
the straight scene.  Most of the vocals, hi-hats, timbales, that
characterized the music at the time had been replaced by harder bass beats,
and signal processing.  It's even funnier that people like vocals, as long
as they are tripped out & processed (unless it's a morning set). As soon as
those divaesque vocals appear you will see damn near every straight guy run
for cover away from the dance floor ;).


>
>        Of course this shit started to get played on the radio, with a
>whole host of new fly by night pirate stations springing up. Larger and
>larger parties. You wanted to go to a party you listened to the radio-
>they told you where the map point was. Out-of-Control! So much so that the
>British Government paniced. All these people gathering together and no
>trouble? They don't like that. Keep everyone divided and oppressed. Also
>they weren't getting their cut ($).
>
>        Markie !)
>

That is IT isn't it?  The main reason wherehouse parties are shut down is
due to the city not receiving ANY revenue from the venture. The stuff about
safety, although true, is nothing more than a smokescreen for greed.
Because if the REALLY cared they would be in the middle of converting those
wherehouses to some good use (housing for the homeless is not the city's
idea of good use since it makes them no $$$).

Anyway,
John

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